Looking foward to the hang out. Hopefully many will join.

Good to know! Yes they were tingling in the past days but for other reasons! LOL 

Alright.. I hope one of you can join the hangout! 

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HI Johnathan! Thanks for your clarifications. All good news to hear BTW…. 

Concerning the reference thing, I'd add in that case also an importer so that who are using a ref manager (the majority of people i guess), could prepare and update a list using for instance mendeley and upload it to FidusWriter when it has to be used. In this case you allow both types of users to exploit their usual work-flow and tools.

Also, I'd put the ref manager of FidusWriter in the page where I'm writing, and not in another page. In the other page maybe just to uploading list or to modifying the list. While I should be able to pick the ref without leaving the page.

Great! 

Looking forward to hear you.

Good that you like Fidus Writer. We have been working hard at it for the past year. We are excited about your interest n Fidus Writer, but I think i should clarify a few points:

• Fidus Writer recently launched version 1.0 after more than a year of development. It's therefore slightly beyond the mockup stage and should be usable as is within many academic disciplines.
• As for our business modell and open source: We are already open source (AGPL) and are working toward a business modell very similar to that of WordPress. 
• Web browsers are unfortunately extremely broken when it comes to creating editing environments within web pages. They provide some simple commands when it comes to the basic editing you can do in most rich-text comment fields. For Google Docs it's not enough, so they have created different applications in Javascript for each browser (Firefox, IE, Chrome, Safari, etc.) that work outside of the built-in functions and with the weight of Google have been able to create a real-time rich-text editor. The task becomes even harder when you add complex contents, such as formulas or citations. This is probably why noone has done it before. I have filed bugs both with Firefox  ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873883&nbsp😉 and Chrome ( https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=238000 https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=242110 ). The Chrome team will discuss how to deal with it at a conference in September. I have not heard from the Firefox team. Until this is fixed, I don't think it's feasible to try to work on realtime collaboration in a complex editor like this, unless we get a team as big as the Google Docs development team.
• Interaction with ref managers: We are currently trying to make sure that we can use the export formats of Mendeley and Zotero. As we want the app to be web-based and for people to be able to use it from any computer, we cannot require them to have a certain reference manager installed in order to wok on a certain document. That way we can just as well use Word. And the reference managers do not interact well with oneanother, so hat it would not be feasible to let people with different ref managers work on the same document, AFAIK.

Ok, so much for clarification. I hope that helped a bit. And I am really looking forward to meeting you guys!
 

Thanks Eugenio.  The FORCE11 exec committee was just having a vigorous discussion about new authoring tools that we might use to update the Manifesto. Hope one or more of us can join the hangout.